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Jon C.10
2 years agoCollaborator | Level 8
Disaster: Dropbox removing external disk support for Mac users :(
In case anyone's unaware... if you're a Mac user storing your Dropbox on an external drive, you'll shortly lose that ability. https://talk.tidbits.com/t/dropbox-drops-support-for-storing-files-on...
- 4 months agoHi Everybody,We’re excited to share that external drive support for Dropbox for macOS on File Provider is now available for testing as a beta feature. This is available to some users today and will be available to additional users on a rolling basis. In order to be eligible to test this feature, please follow the instructions in this Help Center article.Keep in mind that participation in beta programs is subject to the certain terms and conditions. There are certain additional participation requirements:
- This beta is only available to US-based users
- You must be on macOS 15 beta
- You must have an external drive that is APFS formatted and encrypted
Please let me know if you have any further questions!
psalcal
Collaborator | Level 10
A few things on the topic of internal SSD drives shinbeth .
The problem with your line of logic is you assume people work like you do. We don't.
Some people record lots of live musicians playing together. Some people record one track at a time. Some build beats and rap on top of them. Some use a ton of bandwidth-hogging string libraries, while scoring to video. Of course, for the latter purpose, you are right that large internal drives are ideal for that audio playback. BUT your one size fits all perspective is not a real world thing. An internal 8tb drive is completely foolish for most of the rest of us people. For the film scorer, well, there's your use case. But the rest of the 99% of us? Hell no, my friend.
In an article from 2009, the internal hard drive of Macs were able to easily play back 255 tracks at 24/96k (the most tracks Logic supported at a time). Those were SSD SATA3 drives. Those are indeed faster than a thunderbolt 4 drive, which does top out at 2mbps. I suck at math but you can figure out how many tracks the 2mbps SSD could record and play back. But let me say for all but a few of us, that is PLENTY. So the mythical 8tb internal drive is complete overkill.
Also, I have never once in my professional life experienced a single recording studio where they recorded audio from a band (multitrack) to the system volume. That's not for performance anymore but it is for redundancy reasons. If that single source of failure goes down the entire studio goes down. That is a non-starter.
In the video world, if you are working on short form content, by yourself, one project at a time, then maybe that 8tb internal drive will do you. In the corporate world where I work, we work on 100TB RAIDs. We work on multiple projects at a time, we pass them among roles (rough, color correction, sweetening, etc). We DON'T hand the machine off to each person. They instead access the SAN over fiber or 10gbe. 8TB is NOT enough for serious work on longer form video with multiple streams of 8k video. In this case your internal 8TB drive is woefully inadequate.
Also for many of us the idea of putting all our media on our boot drives is a TERRIBLE idea if there is a drive failure. In your world, you would absolutely have MULTIPLE machines with 8tb internal drives with the same drive image AND back them up together daily in case of a failure. With the above mentioned RAID systems, they are designed so multiple drives can fail and you don't lose data. Your mythical 8tb system is a very bad idea in that world.
Certainly my friend if you edit for YouTube and you do fewer projects at a time, you have great media management and you work by yourself, your internal drive option seems like a terrific solution! But unless you have a backup system you can immediately switch to in case of a failure or OS problem, you are walking on thin ice if you are a pro working on a deadline. The important thing is to NEVER think one size fits all.. somehow you are the expert and know everyone else's use cases and workflows? No offense, but it's clear you do not.
At any rate.. it's clear from this thread that there are a great many of us who disagree with you. Respectfully, it seems very foolish for you to come into this thread and tell us what we SHOULD be doing, even if in many cases we are professionals who have been doing this kind of work for over a decade.
KyleKoch
2 years agoHelpful | Level 6
psalcal - your assessment is spot on. There are many of us who require DB to be on external drives when media is local. The logistics to manage video assets within a DB folder located on the OS drive does not make any sense when you have a 50TB+ of cloud storage.
shinbeth - please don’t jump the gun and assume your needs are the same as everyone else. Perhaps take some time to read through the case studies here beforehand.
shinbeth - please don’t jump the gun and assume your needs are the same as everyone else. Perhaps take some time to read through the case studies here beforehand.
- psalcal2 years agoCollaborator | Level 10
shinbeth of the cloud storage providers, I have worked professionally with Box, Dropbox, and Google Drive so far. I even tried to see if iCloud was workable (no). For my money Dropbox is the best fit. Do you have something you like better you could recommend?
I'm a little pissed at them right now because the latest update has stopped my folders from syncing (the update which forced the internal drive storage). But still.. they are the best I've found. - psalcal2 years agoCollaborator | Level 10
shinbeth The way I reading things here, KyleKoch did nothing to try and tell you what YOU should do. We are simply disagreeing with your assessment about what is a good workflow for us.
Why would you feel the need to come here and tell me, someone who has worked for over a decade in pro audio and video editing how I should be doing things? Especially when it's quite apparent your experience is not in the same environment.
I'll say one more time, I think the workflow you mention is TERRIFIC for you, bud. I would never criticize your way. I just gave you a bunch of real world reasons why your workflow doesn't work. It's OK if you choose to do otherwise. - shinbeth2 years agoExperienced | Level 13
I've tried 8 different cloud services including those you mentioned, and Dropbox both personally, professionally and even as part of working for larger companies that were using Dropbox too.
Nothing comes as good as Dropbox in terms of usability, that's a fact. So we have to stick to it.
But I wish they could finally upgrade their product it's been a while since it's been the same I see no new features and upgrades.
Ideally yes it should support any kind of external sync. It should offer more space. So let's keep pushing them into the right direction and they will finally become the ideal cloud service we all wish they were.
- shinbeth2 years agoExperienced | Level 13
Same here please don't assume your needs are the same as everyone else. Please take the time to read all my former comments before jumping to conclusion. You guys on this thread are a minority of users and you're making it big like your life depends on it lol whereas Dropbox was never meant to be syncing external drives in the first place. They only introduced this feature a while ago as a favor and I see no reason to further extend it since it doesn't really make sense.
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