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jasonblum
Explorer | Level 4
8 years ago

Why do Digital Photo Frames requires FULL READ AND WRITE access to your entire Dropbox folder?

Digital Picture Frames like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MTWDG6W/ and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012FRC3PA/ can automatically pull photos from your Dropbox folder.

 

...but they require FULL READ AND WRITE access to your ENTIRE Dropbox folder.  (See screengrab below)  They say this is a requirements from Dropbox's side of the API.  Does anyone know why this is the case or whether there's another frame that requires less access?  Why can't you point them at a single shared folder?  This is obviously unacceptable to anyone who uses Dropbox for more than just photos.

 

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  • Greg-DB's avatar
    Greg-DB
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    8 years ago
    Thanks for the post! I can't point you at any other frames in particular, but for reference on the Dropbox side of things, there are currently two different file permissions API apps can use, "Full Dropbox" and "App folder". The first offers full access to the entire Dropbox, and the second offers access to only one folder. There are advantages to each, and the developer chooses whichever they believe to be best for their app when first registering the app. Dropbox API apps are written to work with a specific permission, so it's not possible for the user to change the permission from the user-side. Likewise, there isn't a way for users to allow access to a specific existing folder only. I certainly understand why that would be preferable though, so I'm sending this along as a feature request.

    For reference, there are some less obvious reasons why even simple looking apps may desire full access. For instance, app folders cannot be shared, nor can they be placed inside shared folders or contain shared folders. While this offers a higher level of restriction, simplifies the experience, and eliminates some complexities, it can also present problems with some common use cases.

    For instance, some users have two (or more) Dropbox accounts, (e.g. one for personal use, one for work, etc.) However, sometimes these users will want to sync some subset of their files (e.g., important items such as a password database) between both accounts, and use shared folders to do so. This would be impossible using app folder access, significantly reducing the value of the app to the user.

    Also, one method we sometimes see, although it requires extra work for the developer, and extra UI and an extra decision for the user to make, is developers registering apps for both types of access, and allowing the user to choose which they prefer. (If you wish to see this available in the apps you use, I recommend submitting feedback to the developers of those apps.)

    And of course, if you ever no longer wish to use an app, you can immediately and remotely unlink it via:

    https://www.dropbox.com/account/security
    • David B.275's avatar
      David B.275
      New member | Level 2
      5 years ago

      It's really disappointing that you can't grant read-only permission. 

       

      Giving read-only permission to all folders for an app is much safer than full read-write and there's no need for photo sharing apps to have write permissions.

       

      It's really limiting and makes dropbox far less useful. I will be considering alternatives as a result of this.

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Digital Picture Frames like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MTWDG6W/ and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012FRC3PA/ can automatically pull photos from your Dropbox folder.

 

...but they require FULL READ AND WRITE access to your ENTIRE Dropbox folder.  (See screengrab below)  They say this is a requirements from Dropbox's side of the API.  Does anyone know why this is the case or whether there's another frame that requires less access?  Why can't you point them at a single shared folder?  This is obviously unacceptable to anyone who uses Dropbox for more than just photos.

 

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Digital Picture Frames like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MTWDG6W/ and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012FRC3PA/ can automatically pull photos from your Dropbox folder.

 

...but they require FULL READ AND WRITE access to your ENTIRE Dropbox folder.  (See screengrab below)  They say this is a requirements from Dropbox's side of the API.  Does anyone know why this is the case or whether there's another frame that requires less access?  Why can't you point them at a single shared folder?  This is obviously unacceptable to anyone who uses Dropbox for more than just photos.

 

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I can't point you at any other frames in particular, but for reference on the Dropbox side of things, there are currently two different file permissions API apps can use, \"Full Dropbox\" and \"App folder\". The first offers full access to the entire Dropbox, and the second offers access to only one folder. There are advantages to each, and the developer chooses whichever they believe to be best for their app when first registering the app. Dropbox API apps are written to work with a specific permission, so it's not possible for the user to change the permission from the user-side. Likewise, there isn't a way for users to allow access to a specific existing folder only. I certainly understand why that would be preferable though, so I'm sending this along as a feature request.

For reference, there are some less obvious reasons why even simple looking apps may desire full access. For instance, app folders cannot be shared, nor can they be placed inside shared folders or contain shared folders. While this offers a higher level of restriction, simplifies the experience, and eliminates some complexities, it can also present problems with some common use cases.

For instance, some users have two (or more) Dropbox accounts, (e.g. one for personal use, one for work, etc.) However, sometimes these users will want to sync some subset of their files (e.g., important items such as a password database) between both accounts, and use shared folders to do so. This would be impossible using app folder access, significantly reducing the value of the app to the user.

Also, one method we sometimes see, although it requires extra work for the developer, and extra UI and an extra decision for the user to make, is developers registering apps for both types of access, and allowing the user to choose which they prefer. (If you wish to see this available in the apps you use, I recommend submitting feedback to the developers of those apps.)

And of course, if you ever no longer wish to use an app, you can immediately and remotely unlink it via:

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For reference, there are some less obvious reasons why even simple looking apps may desire full access. For instance, app folders cannot be shared, nor can they be placed inside shared folders or contain shared folders. While this offers a higher level of restriction, simplifies the experience, and eliminates some complexities, it can also present problems with some common use cases.

For instance, some users have two (or more) Dropbox accounts, (e.g. one for personal use, one for work, etc.) However, sometimes these users will want to sync some subset of their files (e.g., important items such as a password database) between both accounts, and use shared folders to do so. This would be impossible using app folder access, significantly reducing the value of the app to the user.

Also, one method we sometimes see, although it requires extra work for the developer, and extra UI and an extra decision for the user to make, is developers registering apps for both types of access, and allowing the user to choose which they prefer. (If you wish to see this available in the apps you use, I recommend submitting feedback to the developers of those apps.)

And of course, if you ever no longer wish to use an app, you can immediately and remotely unlink it via:

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It's really disappointing that you can't grant read-only permission. 

 

Giving read-only permission to all folders for an app is much safer than full read-write and there's no need for photo sharing apps to have write permissions.

 

It's really limiting and makes dropbox far less useful. I will be considering alternatives as a result of this.

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It's really disappointing that you can't grant read-only permission. 

 

Giving read-only permission to all folders for an app is much safer than full read-write and there's no need for photo sharing apps to have write permissions.

 

It's really limiting and makes dropbox far less useful. I will be considering alternatives as a result of this.

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David B.275 Thanks for the feedback!

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 Thanks for the feedback!

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