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usrx
3 years agoCollaborator | Level 8
Why does Dropbox insist on renaming my files?
2020: "Stop renaming my files! (on auto phone upload)" by BoxyBeat https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/Dropbox-installs-integrations/Stop-renaming-my-files-on-auto-phone-upload/td-p/391599 Dropbox r...
- 3 years ago
So why does Dropbox insist on renaming my files?... because they/it can. It is that simple I'm afraid.
Megan
3 years agoDropbox Staff
Hi usrx, let's get right into this!
Can you give me a tad more info? Do you upload content manually or via camera uploads?
How is the name before, and how is it after the upload?
Keep me posted.
- usrx3 years agoCollaborator | Level 8
Same as BoxyBeat, and I am upset for the same reason as he/she is/was and it has to do with things he/she mentioned already, like being able to "keep track easier for missing files, [interrupted] transfers, moved files and so on". The only difference is that I take mostly photos, and not so much videos, so to me, it's completely uninteresting if the Dropbox app uses the timestamp from when the file was created or when it was last modified (in case of video files, according to referenced discussion above). But sure, I will give you some examples.
This is the naming convention that my phone uses to store the files in memory and how I want to keep them.
Format: YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS.jpg
Example file: 20210102_183405.jpg
This is the naming convention that the Dropbox app on my phone uses when the files are uploaded to Dropbox using the camera upload option.
Format: YYYY-MM-DD HH.MM.SS.jpg
Example file: 2022-06-24 19.14.54.jpg
There is a bit more to it when it comes to photo files that are taken within the same second. So the phone will add a suffix like "_03.jpg" and if I recall correctly the Dropbox app will turn that into "-03.jpg". I don't have a real example of this at the moment, I would need to spend another fifteen minutes searching for it as it's not very common that more than one photo is taken within a second, and it usually does that when you take burst shots, which I don't normally do. There are some more situations like that, but the general rule is what you have above.
So in summary...
File is stored as:
20210102_183405.jpg
File is mangled by Dropbox into:
2021-01-02 18.34.05.jpg
I expect the file to have this name on my computer after it has been uploaded/synced from my phone using Dropbox camera upload:
20210102_183405.jpg
Instead, Dropbox downloads/syncs to my computer a file with a name like this:
2021-01-02 18.34.05.jpg
So my question is, why are you doing this? And why are you not allowing people to change this behavior for years now? For example, does your backend not have the capacity to store or process files whose name contain underscores? A technical reason like that, I would understand, even if it seems highly unlikely. As it stands right now, you don't have a reason to do this (none has been given thus far in the many discussions on the topic). I on the other hand, like many users like me, do have a reason to keep the original file names and we have presented our reason.
- dwcapture3 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Hi usrx
This doesn't help my case (as I just posted) but it may help you. A free, very powerful file-renaming utility that would definitely be able to restore all your filenames. Once you get the script right, which is done through drag-and-drop events based on search and replace, and the ability test before executing (along with undo), you could run it on a hundred-thousand files and they'd all be fixed in seconds.
JoeJoe's freeware utilities - [Rename Master]
Go back to: 20210102_183405.jpg quickly! Even when there are additional appendages like _3 and crap, that little utility can weed them out and do what you like with them.
That's for you and everyone else who may stumble upon these grounds.
Be well!
Danny
- LilyMuseic2 years agoHelpful | Level 6
Seriously, we have to download another app to get our files named the way we want?
Why, Dropbox, does everything have to be so corporate? Corporate, in the sense that Dropbox functions don't make sense, so they need to be explained by tech employees. Often to perfectly intelligent and sometimes very geeky customers --- let's raise our hands! 🙂
- filmic102 years agoNew member | Level 2
This is exactly the issue I'm facing with cameras uploads from mobile. (The file name changes upon upload to Dropbox, so I can't easily make sure the files on my phone have actually been backed up.) This was previously not an issue but now I have a few years of built up files that I don't feel fully confident in deleting because I'm not sure if all of them got backed up or not without manually comparing file sizes.
- Jay3 years agoDropbox Staff
Hi usrx, we appreciate the feedback on this matter. The camera upload feature currently doesn't allow any customization when it comes to renaming the files during the upload process.
If you wish, you can suggest this change as a new idea for other users to vote on, in order to pass it onto the dev team for their consideration.
- usrx3 years agoCollaborator | Level 8
I know that. In fact, I am not even asking for a way to customize the way that Dropbox renames files. It should not be renaming them in the first place. At all! I simply ask that it leaves be my file names. This should be the default: not touching people's file names.
What do you achieve by renaming the files anyway? You're not filing them in different folders automatically for organizational purposes, not by default anyway. They are all just dumped in the same camera upload folder anyhow, just with different names compared to the original files on the phone.
This is not a new idea and not a new suggestion. Others have asked for this for a long time, long before me, and it was never forwarded to the right team (dev team or whatever the right team is) for consideration. Not that I am aware of or have found evidence of on the forum. For example Pete3000 has made this suggestion, but his suggestion was never forwarded due to premature closure of the topic. The topic was reportedly closed because of lack of support by other users.
How can other users have a chance to support the idea if you keep closing the topic before it gains traction?
This is what Walter from Dropbox had to say on that:
"This idea has been closed due to inactivity and can no longer be voted for. If you have a similar idea please share it with us here."Pete3000created the topic on 04-03-2021 (April), and it was closed by Walter in November of the same year, 7 months later. Why even close it? Was it somehow problematic to leave it open? I have been online long enough to know that there are forums that don't close old topics until they are at least 5 years old or 60 months, and only then do they force people to start a new discussion on the same topic. Others still never close a topic of discussion, unless they have a very good reason to do so.
In fact, Walter's assertion that it's no longer possible to vote on the suggested idea is false. I was able to vote on it a few days ago. Maybe you don't have your forum settings configured right? It should not be possible to vote if what you say is true.
Anyway... I give up! I have made it more than clear what's going on here and how I feel about it. If you don't want to listen to what users are saying, that's OK. You don't need to do a thing anymore. I have found my solution: OneDrive. I have already had a subscription plan with OneDrive for a few years now, but I was stuck on using Dropbox for camera uploads, and I used OneDrive in conjunction with Dropbox for certain things, since the year when Dropbox decided to lower the number of synced devices from 5 to 3. Today I disabled the camera upload in Dropbox on my phone and enabled it in OneDrive, and guess what?... it does not rename my files! Good news for me, bad news for you. Good bye!
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