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riccardo1981
3 years agoNew member | Level 2
Dropbox acquires Boxcryptor. What will happen to all those files that have been encrypted?
Hi
As most will know, dropbox has purchased boxcryptor. At this point my question is, what will happen to all those files that have been encrypted with boxcryptor ? Should they all be decrypted an...
- 3 years ago
riccardo1981 wrote:
At this point my question is, what will happen to all those files that have been encrypted with boxcryptor ?
Since this is such a new development, such answers are likely not available yet, beyond what has been stated by the Boxcryptor founders (emphasis mine).
What does this mean for our users and customers?
First of all: All our existing users and customers will remain with the German Secomba GmbH with the same shareholders as during the past 10 years. No contracts, customer data or keys will migrate to Dropbox, all data will remain in our German data centers.
While we’ve sold several key technology assets to Dropbox, we will continue to service our existing users and customers pursuant to the terms of their existing contracts. However, as of today, we will not allow the creation of new accounts or purchases of any new licenses.
If you’re an existing customer, you can keep using Boxcryptor as you do today, and we’ll be in touch with more details as we join forces with Dropbox. If you’re new here and would like to stay up to date on Dropbox’s progress, join the Dropbox mailing list.
You will also find the most important FAQs regarding the next steps below.
Martin R.19
11 months agoCollaborator | Level 10
Dear Andrea,
I see two different overviews for available plans i.e. https://www.dropbox.com/plans and https://www.dropbox.com/business/plans-comparison I don't see any plan by the name "Advanced" as mentioned in your message. Furthermore the overviews or plan comparisons were obviously not yet updated as no plan shows the E2E encryption yet.
So if I understood the content at the provided links correctly it's only specific (team) folders that have end-to-end encryption. What does team folder mean? Is it somehow related to Microsoft Teams or is it a folder that can be accessed by several users (if I want that)?
If I want all my files and directories getting encrypted in the Dropbox Cloud I would need to create a folder structure in that encrypted (team) folder?
Thanks for your efforts.
Cotswolds
11 months agoExplorer | Level 4
Advanced is on the storage/file sharing plans.
- Martin R.1911 months agoCollaborator | Level 10
Thank you! So they meanwhile have at least 3 different price overview pages. Quite confusing...
- apfund11 months ago
Dropbox Product Manager
Thank you whausername and Concerned Citizen for your kind words regarding Boxcryptor!
We want to make sure that the end-to-end encryption in Dropbox is the even better alternative and will continue to work on it and improve it.
Advanced: Yes, this is one of our (teams) plans.
Encrypted Team Folder: This are folders created by the team admin of a Dropbox team which can be shared with members and groups of that team. And yes, if you want all of your Dropbox content to be end-to-end encrypted, you need to create an encrypted team folder at the top level and then add your subfolders below.
Currently, end-to-end encryption is only available for the mentioned team plans. - Concerned Citizen11 months agoHelpful | Level 6
We would like to request end-to-end encrypted folders availability in other paid tiers like Family:
Here is a rationale:
In previous Dropbox product offerings there was a strategy of offering premium features as incentive to upgrade to higher tiers of service, take Hello Sign for example. But in this instance there is not a logical upgrade path from Family to Teams. Our use cases are different. My partner and children are not business colleagues. In terms of our file security however our risk profile is every bit as important as a small company would be, so the encryption layer is very compelling for us.
So if Andrea or whoever has their ear on this thread from within DBX Corp, please consider the situation (a not uncommon one I would suspect) of paid monthly subscribers who want this feature but don't make sense to switch over to a Teams plan.
At least now the feature is in place it's not a technology issue but a business issue. Which doesn't mean we'll get what we want any faster, but one problem down one to go. 🥳
- whausername11 months agoHelpful | Level 5
My guess is someone high up in the enterprise sales team said "enterprise customers want E2EE". So then the higher-ups decided to buy Boxcryptor and integrate it, but nobody ever spoke to the engineers, they just spoke to a director of engineering or director of product. So the engineers get handed this other product which they basically need to cast aside and built E2EE into the Dropbox product more-or-less from scratch. There is no roadmap for offering E2EE to individuals or family users because Dropbox likes having access to their files. Who knows what agreements they've made with governments or law enforcement agencies.
None of their competitors offer E2EE to individuals so they won't bother. This is a giant company with very little agility. Try Cryptomator, Tresorit, Sync.com, pCloud, etc. if you're looking for E2EE for a single account. Never gonna see it happen here.
- c_my_name_is11 months agoExplorer | Level 4
fun fact: till yet E2EE not available on mobile apps ( so even with a business plan, no chance so access your e2ee files with e.g. iOS ) 🙂
btw. sync.com doesn't use e2ee wording anymore on the website - it must be gone... or never was e2e
- Martin R.1911 months agoCollaborator | Level 10
It still says "End-to-end encryption" for all plans at Sync.com. But I wonder if they and pCloud meanwhile implemented Apples requirements for cloud services (CloudStorage folder). For me it's still OneDrive (for unencrypted content) and Filen.io for E2EE for more than a year now...
- c_my_name_is10 months agoExplorer | Level 4
Ok, but who got access to the (private) keys? Are they stored on sync.com servers? Than it's E2EE yes, but not zero-knowledge wich is pointless.
I've tested filen in its early days - unfortunately they use still electron for the macOS client - sorry. Don't like it.
- Martin R.1910 months agoCollaborator | Level 10Of course, zero-knowledge is a must, and private keys should only reside on your device. You will have to check this for your preferred service.
Please let me know what's wrong with Electron. Thanks. - whausername10 months agoHelpful | Level 5
I went ahead and moved everything to Tresorit. Seems to do what I need (full sync / selective sync of various folders with E2EE and encrypted file sharing). Will keep Dropbox running for a month or two as a temporary backup, then I'm finished here.
Boxcryptor was such a fantastic product. All good things, I guess. Adios!
- Darkness938 months agoNew member | Level 2
Cheers I came here for a recommendation of a Boxcryptor alternative, because I guess they're not offering encryption to Dropbox free users instead. Guess they didn't realise encryption is important for personal use not just for business..
I'll look at encrypting my stuff on Tresorit if you'd recommend, sounds a lot like what Boxcryptor did. Is it able to link to Dropbox also to encrypt files in-place? I still use Dropbox Free for family folder access and other nostalgic files that don't really need encryption, just handy
- SMRose_FL8 months agoExplorer | Level 3
am using Crytomator and I am very happy with it. A bit more involved but really good.
Combined with Mountain Duck, which mounts Cloud drives with a drive letter and Files 3.5, which shows these, I have everything I need.
Still wish Boxcryptor was available, but I have fond an answer that works for me.
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