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Will dropbox be blocked in Russia?
Hi everyone, I'm trying to find any official news/statements dropbox accessibility from Russia, maybe you can share some links
Good day - I am still alive. Today I woke up at 6 AM because of loud boom. The 14 floor building was targeted with russian bomb or rocket while people were sleeping there, which is 10 mins walk from my house.
The advice: every time you hear the story about "good russians" - read the history of Ukraine book. Since the Golden Horde founded this s**t it destroys everything around them.
Of course you still have a chance to make the period of reparations and contributions shorter. The nation of slaves could make only famine revolutions (or as we call "hamburger revolution"). So, yes every business which does not want to go together with russian warship should stop any operation there. And Yes, the "special financial operation" (we do not call it sanctions) should be continued and become harder to stop destroying of Ukrainian cities and killing of Ukrainian people.
Still waiting the Dropbox to stop any work at the territory of aggressor.
Sorry to break the news to you, but the current government of Ukraine is the aggressor and started all of this. Why should Russia be banned and lose access to their data security because of instability that has been going for literally hundreds of years.
I'm Ukrainian Jew with Russian family. The same people the West is now supporting killed my family 100 years ago, and again in 2014. War is terrible, but you can't just make a one sided case for things. There wouldn't be a war if the USA had leadership. This is 100% on the US. Should we ban people here in the US too?
Let's all just get along and leave politics for the voting booth. Putin was fairly elected but was gradually dropping off in support until this happened. Sanctions just will make Russian compete.
Finally, a couple of the most influential engineers at Dropbox were Ukrainian Jews too. They (hopefully) know that 'Slava Ucraini' is hate speech and what they say when Jews and other minorities are murdered by the cossacks. Unless you know who Petliura, Bandera, Khelministky, and how they tie into current day nationalist beliefs, then you have no business making a political argument about this.
War crimes? Yea, they are coming from both sides. Let's stop this, but trying to cancel people is just going to make Dropbox a target for an attack. Dropbox should play zero role in this. If they are ordered to sanction Russia from internal sanctions, they should divest, sell off, and fight tooth and nail to protect people's data. This is what is important for this forum, not politics.
No politics here. This forum is the place to discuss Dropbox clients problems and supporting bloody regimes is a problem. And it is not only about Dropbox. Every business should cancel russia. It is the only way to stop the wild horde from east.
And do not call you Ukrainian Jew - Chai234 seems you are putin's Jew, infected with kremlin propaganda. You are still using kremlin fakes to talk about historical personalities - read history books based on facts and forget about russian mythology.
My grand grand mother buried on Babyn Yar (recently was attacked by russian rocket - the family with children died there).
My grand mother with grand father moved to Stryi (West of Ukraine) in 1943 to hide from hitler nazi and russian communists.
My relatives from St.Peterburg moved to Israel a long time ago (so they were not infected with this propaganda).
We do not call us "Ukrainian Jews" - we all are Ukrainians (does not matter what religion we have).
And Yes, as it has never been a hate speech (only in sick russian's fantasies), Glory to Ukraine, Glory to USA, Glory to EU, Glory to Israel and to all other partners. And glory to all heroes who help us to protect from russian fascism.
Technically the term Ukrainian Jew is a simplification for those unfamiliar with the land. You are not considered Ukrainian if you are Jewish from the Ukraine to a good plurality of people. This is how nationalists think. This is why saying Slava Ucraini (and Slava Rusi) should result in jail time for hate speech. Ukrainian is an ethnicity and saying such implies race.
Jewish people from Podolia are mostly Litvaks who settled during the Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth. Chassidism grew and Podolia became the center of orthodox culture in the world for about 100 years.
The Russian Empire did not necessarily treat Jewish people great either. Jews before the mass extermination by Ukrainian nationalists in 1919 were mostly pro-Western. They were relegated to a shadow economic system by the Ukrainians, and in the cities, like today, people more or less got along just fine. Some Jewish people even spoke Ukrainian then, and some of those even worked for Petliura.
However, the rebels of the Chassadim spoke Russian to rebel against strict religion. Russian was the cool kids language, and you will note on many immigration papers the children of emigres listed Russian as their primary language. Canadian immigration authorities only considered you a Ukrainian immigrant if you spoke Ukrainian as well. There were differences in settlement based on this in the diaspora. Ukrainians and Jews from the Ukraine didn't really commingle in the new country...for obvious reasons I have explained.
Why would Zelensky sign this racist law that came into effect January 16th of 2022? This was the final straw for Putin. Government officials faced prison for speaking Russian. Seems kind of odd when you know 50% of the country speaks Russian natively and they want to keep control of breakaway territories.
While I can educate you on the history of the Ukraine and the minority populations for hours, it comes down to this, banning Russia and Russians is ridiculous. Dropbox should restore access to Crimea as well. This is not because I like Putin or support the war. I oppose repressing anyone, and I will fight for a free and independent Ukraine. People in the West however need to chill out and educate themselves on what is going on, and why it is happening. This is a USA/NATO problem firstly. Ukrainian nationalists who do bad things to minorities is secondary. There are also Russian nationalists doing the same.
Everyone needs to calm down and think rationally. My business lost a lot of money because of this war. My plans to expand in Kyiv are scrapped forever. There is no way back. Nobody wishes for peace more than me. However, I will not allow misconceptions and lies to pervade regardless of who accomplishes what in this war. We all will lose, but the truth of history shall be preserved.
If you'd like more rabbinical resources or sources on information I am happy for anyone to learn more. History wouldn't have repeated if people would have valued truth instead of emotion.So, your family suffered, you percieve Russia was the cause of that, and now everyone in Russia has to suffer? People should lose their jobs, their children should go hungry? Is that what you want?
In truth, many people suffered in the history of Russia and Ukraine. This is a domestic dispute. Domestics are the nasty fights, and people on the outside should just stay out of it because you risk escalating things more.
Russia has done many terrible things, Ukraine has done, and continues to do bad things. There are many idle people in Europe now wanting to also do bad things. Let's think about the consequences of WWIII. Let's realize we have it pretty good still, and that we can help refugees get on with their life at the current scale of the war.
If nuclear war breaks out, we won't be able to help anyone, even if we survive. Racism against Russians is the same as racism against anyone else. Sanctions are a tool nations can use to rein in certain behaviors. It's not necessarily a bad thing to sanction countries, but in reality both belligerents in this war need sanctions, not just Russia. People are pouring in money to a corrupt government that is opaque as any banana republic stereo type of corruption.
I don't support banning Ukrainians, even North Korean from accessing the free world. Isolating people just escalates things. The problem here is nobody listens to anyone anymore without resorting to ad hominem attacks. If Dropbox bans Russians spuriously now, they will block your data next. Mob mentality won't stop at one issue. You will eventually be consumed by it too.
Finally, nobody cared when Armenia was attacked mercilessly by Azerbaijan based on race in late 2020. It was horrible, but Azeris still had dropbox, as they should. After the brutal senseless war, Armenia has made peace with its enemy who genocided half its population in 1915. Now trade begins and people hopefully will move on to fruitful enterprise. After all a large part of Turkey used to be Armenia. They aren't that different. The sooner people decide to act rationally, the happier everyone is.
And yes sadly, war between Russia and Ukraine is what made peace between Armenia and Turkey, but it's a silver lining worth remembering.
- This is a commercial organization. And she has to lose money just because you feel like it? Yes, some companies temporarily left Russia. But will be back as soon as possible. Nobody wants to lose their money. This is business. Nothing personal.
Good day. Recently putin's fascists targeted supermarket (Supermarket, Carl!). Probably because it was possible to buy there the latest iPhone and order the BigMac menu. The attack was sponsored by Dropbox and others (who still work with terrorists).
Chai234 All your conclusions are very russian propaganda addicted. Drop it and everything will be clear for you.
leocleo Very ugly to comment it. I wonder, do you really believe in these or they just pay you? Good news for you - I heard the they are searching new meat and give 200-300$/month. You can join them and become 200 or 300 cargo as more then 15000 ones like you already.
Thanks all for your replies. Removing all data from Dropbox and switching to OneDrive as have just ordered the subscription.
