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7 years ago
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Syncing when using symbolic links

Hello, I am having an issue concerning dropbox syncing when using symbolic links. Using Windows 10 and the Dropbox app, recently downloaded / installed so I believe it is fully up to date. On the ...
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    Rich
    2 years ago

    ncole wrote:

    Any and all images from those files are also now showing in the 'Photos' area.


    The Photos page is a special page that shows all of the images throughout your entire Dropbox account. There's no way to disable this or exclude folders from being included.

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Using Windows 10 and the Dropbox app, recently downloaded / installed so I believe it is fully up to date. On the ...","body@stringLength":"1229","rawBody":"

Hello,

I am having an issue concerning dropbox syncing when using symbolic links.

Using Windows 10 and the Dropbox app, recently downloaded / installed so I believe it is fully up to date.

On the \"host\" machine, rather than copying (and thus duplicating) all files to the Dropbox folder, I create a symbolic link in the Dropbox folder, using the command prompt:

>mklink /d Documents C:\\<path_to_real_documents_folder>

This works fine, except that when files in _real_documents_folder  are changed, they do not get \"synced\" on Dropbox unless I \"force\" it.  I click the Dropbox icon, the lower left says \"Up to date\" .  Hover mouse and it changes to \"Pause syncing\".  I click that, then it says \"Syncing paused\".  Click again, and it then updates and syncs the files.

The result is that, without remembering to do this, the Dropbox copy never updates, (unless exited and restarted) either by \"logging on\" through the web site, or on another computer using the app and same login credentials.  If I do remember to do this, everything is fine.

Is there a way to get this to happen automatically?

Thanks.

 

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Hi everyone! Thanks for keeping in touch with us on this thread regarding symlinks. 

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I just wanted to note that, if you haven't already, you can check out more info about symlinks and how to use them with Dropbox in this article

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If you have any other questions or feedback for us, feel free to give us a nudge. Thanks again!

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Hi everyone! Thanks for keeping in touch with us on this thread regarding symlinks. 

\n

I just wanted to note that, if you haven't already, you can check out more info about symlinks and how to use them with Dropbox in this article

\n

If you have any other questions or feedback for us, feel free to give us a nudge. Thanks again!

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Hi Neil, long story short, Dropbox doesn’t support symlinks and never has. 
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If they do work, it is purely luck, since the majority of the time it creates performance issues, permission failures and data loss.
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This article describes a little more about what symlinks could do if found in a Dropbox folder.
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Hope this helps!
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Hi Neil, long story short, Dropbox doesn’t support symlinks and never has. 
\n
 
\n
If they do work, it is purely luck, since the majority of the time it creates performance issues, permission failures and data loss.
\n
 
\n
This article describes a little more about what symlinks could do if found in a Dropbox folder.
\n
 
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Hope this helps!
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Hi Jay,

Actually they do (or at least seem to so far) if created properly. This obviously fails:

% cd ~/Dropbox ;   ln -s ~/mydir ./mydir

But if the symlink is from outside Dropbox to a file that is inside Dropbox, it seems to work fine. But only if the link is created carefully. Curiously, this fails:

% cd ~/Dropbox ;  ln -s myDropboxDir ~/mydir

And this fails:

% cd ~/Dropbox ; ln -s myDropboxDir mydir ; mv mydir ~

BUT this works:

% cd ~ ; ln -s ~/Dropbox/DropboxDir mydir

You end up with a directory (actually a soft link) ~/mydir that works perfectly well, with contents accessible on all machines using the Dropbox account.

Going end to end:

mac1> cd ~/Dropbox; mkdir myDropboxDir ; cd ~ ; ln -s Dropbox/myDropboxDir ./mydir

Makes a perfectly functional ~/mydir

And on a second machine:

mac2> cd ~ ; ln -s Dropbox/MyDropboxDir ./mydir

Makes a perfectly functional ~/mydir as well. Any changes made in ~/mydir on mac1 show up (both from Finder and from the command line) in ~/mydir on mac2. And vice versa.

Of course, Dropbox/myDropboxDir should be set to sync.

I think this effectively provides all of the functionality one might want using symbolilc links with Dropbox. For example, it provides a way to have ~/src and ~/bin synchronized across machines.

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Hi Jay,

Actually they do (or at least seem to so far) if created properly. This obviously fails:

% cd ~/Dropbox ;   ln -s ~/mydir ./mydir

But if the symlink is from outside Dropbox to a file that is inside Dropbox, it seems to work fine. But only if the link is created carefully. Curiously, this fails:

% cd ~/Dropbox ;  ln -s myDropboxDir ~/mydir

And this fails:

% cd ~/Dropbox ; ln -s myDropboxDir mydir ; mv mydir ~

BUT this works:

% cd ~ ; ln -s ~/Dropbox/DropboxDir mydir

You end up with a directory (actually a soft link) ~/mydir that works perfectly well, with contents accessible on all machines using the Dropbox account.

Going end to end:

mac1> cd ~/Dropbox; mkdir myDropboxDir ; cd ~ ; ln -s Dropbox/myDropboxDir ./mydir

Makes a perfectly functional ~/mydir

And on a second machine:

mac2> cd ~ ; ln -s Dropbox/MyDropboxDir ./mydir

Makes a perfectly functional ~/mydir as well. Any changes made in ~/mydir on mac1 show up (both from Finder and from the command line) in ~/mydir on mac2. And vice versa.

Of course, Dropbox/myDropboxDir should be set to sync.

I think this effectively provides all of the functionality one might want using symbolilc links with Dropbox. For example, it provides a way to have ~/src and ~/bin synchronized across machines.

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Hey Lusil,

Thanks for the article, but it still misses the point. It discusses the differences between symbolic links inside Dropbox pointing to objects also inside Dropbox (which work) and symbolic links inside Dropbox pointing to objects outside Dropbox (which do not work).

But the article does not discuss symbolic links where the object itself is inside Dropbox but the symlink is outside Dropbox.

You do not discuss the case:

OutsideDropbox/linkdir --> Dropbox/dir

To me, the last is actually the interesting case, because it allows one to have files and directories that seem to be outside of Dropbox but in fact are shared and synced. Which is kind of the point. 

You just have to be careful about how the link is constructed. It has to be a soft link properly constructed from the command line with ln -s. (From the Finder soft links and Apple \"alias\" files are tagged the same way with a little arrow, but they are absolutely not the same thing. Apple alias files don't work here.)

 

PS: I have since realized that some of the strangeness applies to any soft links (ln -s variety) regardless of whether the target file is inside Dropbox or not. My bad. The point is that the great utility of soft links is to make a shared or remote resource look and behave as if it is local. Soft links to Dropbox items serve that purpose in spectacular fashion.

I should also say that Dropbox is a great service. I already use it in many ways; my environment and workflow would blow up without it. I'm finding new ways to put it to use routinely. Having seen comments to the effect that \"symbolic links are not supported,\" I had never really gone down that path. I posted here because of my pleasure in discovering that when thought about and implemented with some care, Dropbox and symbolic links work together amazingly well.

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Hey Lusil,

Thanks for the article, but it still misses the point. It discusses the differences between symbolic links inside Dropbox pointing to objects also inside Dropbox (which work) and symbolic links inside Dropbox pointing to objects outside Dropbox (which do not work).

But the article does not discuss symbolic links where the object itself is inside Dropbox but the symlink is outside Dropbox.

You do not discuss the case:

OutsideDropbox/linkdir --> Dropbox/dir

To me, the last is actually the interesting case, because it allows one to have files and directories that seem to be outside of Dropbox but in fact are shared and synced. Which is kind of the point. 

You just have to be careful about how the link is constructed. It has to be a soft link properly constructed from the command line with ln -s. (From the Finder soft links and Apple \"alias\" files are tagged the same way with a little arrow, but they are absolutely not the same thing. Apple alias files don't work here.)

 

PS: I have since realized that some of the strangeness applies to any soft links (ln -s variety) regardless of whether the target file is inside Dropbox or not. My bad. The point is that the great utility of soft links is to make a shared or remote resource look and behave as if it is local. Soft links to Dropbox items serve that purpose in spectacular fashion.

I should also say that Dropbox is a great service. I already use it in many ways; my environment and workflow would blow up without it. I'm finding new ways to put it to use routinely. Having seen comments to the effect that \"symbolic links are not supported,\" I had never really gone down that path. I posted here because of my pleasure in discovering that when thought about and implemented with some care, Dropbox and symbolic links work together amazingly well.

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