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What concerns me most about Dropbox's answer is:
\"Additionally, online-only files will become commonplace for most Dropbox app users. If extra space is required on your hard drive, the Dropbox desktop app or the OS may automatically convert your files to online-only.\"
I signed up to Dropbox to have a backup of the files on my machines and to synchronize between them - NOT to start making files \"online only\" (and hence dependent on a continuing subscription).
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\"Additionally, online-only files will become commonplace for most Dropbox app users. If extra space is required on your hard drive, the Dropbox desktop app or the OS may automatically convert your files to online-only.\"
I signed up to Dropbox to have a backup of the files on my machines and to synchronize between them - NOT to start making files \"online only\" (and hence dependent on a continuing subscription).
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The only thing is, those services are much cheaper (in fact, they are free at many universities). There is no longer any point to a Dropbox subscription. Unfortunately I've got almost a year left on my now canceled subscription, and now I'm stuck with a service different from what I purchased. What garbage.
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Dropbox have awarded themselves the power to DELETE files from my local filesystem, and make them cloud-only, based on some hazy criteria of \"if extra space space is required on your hard drive\"? So I'm actually paying for Dropbox for the privilege of being made dependent on them by stealth? And the icons actually now mean: \"we can take your files hostage at any time unless you keep paying us money\"?
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This is the message I'm sending to competing cloud services. I hope it seems clear to all you good folks of the community. I've already gotten helpful responses from two of Dropbox's competitors! Here's my message:
To [competing cloud service CEO]:
I and many Dropbox Business users are planning to migrate away from Dropbox due to its sudden kneecapping of its flagship product - specifically, the usefulness of \"selective sync\" icons. We're wondering if you provide (or can provide) what we just lost.
Business teams need 3 separate icons for fully synced folders - which Dropbox used to have - brilliantly! - but then canceled without logical explanation this summer. Specifically, we need sync icons that show:
Which competitors replied to you? Google Drive is not a viable solution for syncing across multiple machines. So, I think my best option is Box Sync (NOT Box Drive). But I'm not sure if Box is still really maintaining Box Sync. Also, it syncs much more slowly than Dropbox (the reason I switched away from it in the first place). Still, at least it has functional, comprehensible icons.
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Grey check mark (partially pushed to local storage)
Grey cloud (nothing in local stoage)
Green check mark (completely pushed to local storage)
Thanks for updating us. I'm so fed up of once dependable services that get ruined by \"improvements\". Having to manually reset all my folders to \"Make available offline\" to be sure of a local copy is extremely annoying, especially since I have no assurance they won't revert to \"available to be automatically made online-only\" again in the future, given that Dropbox now want to foist that behavior on us by default.
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As one user pointed out, the info is available (by right-clicking and seeing if \"make offline\" and \"make online\" are both options), but Dropbox is choosing to make it hard to know what's what.
The Sync.com rep is now researching cloud-to-cloud migration possibilities to help all of us move teams over to their company. I will report back.
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I've been pretty happy with Sync so far. It's reasonably fast, I know exactly where everything is, and I can change the status of two or three folders without having ALL the folders change accordingly. (That's been a real problem with Dropbox even before the icon issue showed up.) If you work from the web platform, it's super easy to move things around. Easier I than Dropbox. The real limitation is that you can only sync files, not individual folders. But they won't decide for you that you don't have enough space on your hard drive and start moving things to the cloud without your doing so yourself!! It's a lot easier to control and manage than Dropbox.
One other benefit of Sync for Windows users -- you can open all your files right in Windows. (Password protected files didn't open in Dropbox.)
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Rua I'm really confused how this thread got marked as \"solved,\" when clearly the issue is not solved.
Thank you for taking the time to give the response that you did. It is great to have a dropboxer in here willing to dialogue. However, your response did not \"solve\" this issue. Instead it explained what we all unfortunately already know. Please remove the \"solved\" status from this thread.
Until something is done to address the selective sync icons having been changed, the issue we are all having is most certainly not solved.
But the true \"solve\" is simple. We need either one of the following simple fixes:
This whole issue revolves around users no longer knowing if a folder contains a mix of \"online only\" and \"offline\" files. That's it. The new selective sync icon system makes Dropbox impossibly hard to use and is literally and utterly debilitating to daily work.
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Holy sh**, they did it again 😂 Your link no longer opens another thread where you can vote for a change, but opens this thread which is wrongfully flagged as solved.
Link in question rusdom
\"Since this thread won't seem to let votes be cast any more, I created a new idea post, if anyone would like to up vote the idea and try to keep it front of mind for Dropbox.\"
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I'll give this a try.
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