I placed my music in dropbox. If I want to listen directly using dropbox, I can listen only to one song at a time I had to select an other song in a folder to listen again. Is there a possibility to ...
ram4444 Thanks for following up and sharing that, and apologies for the delay. (It appears your latest message may have initially been caught in a spam filter.)
Anyway, I see your client is sending a "TE" header in the request, but no "Connection" header. According to the specification, the corresponding "Connection" header value is required when setting the "TE" header. I am able to reproduce the error you see when setting "TE" and not "Connection", and I am able to resolve the error by setting both "TE" and "Connection" (specifically, "Connection: TE"). If you are not able to remove the "TE" header your client is setting, you should try to have it set "Connection: TE" as well.
Did you ever solve this issue? With only playing one song at a time?
There is no solution for this in Dropbox because it's not a media player. Find a media player application that has Dropbox functionality built-in to it.
People, many, are using dropbox to listen to music. It's a far better solution that iTunes. This dismissive response shows a lack of fundamental marketing intelligence.
Your customers want playlists and have been asking for years.
They ARE using your app to listen to music. You can pretend or insist they are not, but they are. (My primary reason for getting a paid account was that my LARGE music files made me grow beyond the basic account size. Had I not used you for music and audio I'd still be a free user.)
There are other (bad) solutions on the web to create playlists for dropbox because you have refused to. http://www.online-playlist.com
Why not embrace your customer feedback and make ANY solution to handle this.
It could be as simple as allowing users to make a text file with a specific extension that listed the files names they want in a list.
Or if you are feeling fancy, add an option under the multiple file select menu that said: "Play all" and supported a swipe right and left while playing to skip forward and back.
My point is STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY DON"T WANT WHAT THEY WANT and please LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
Thanks for posting your feature request here and welcome to the Dropbox Community!
Indeed, users' opinions are valued immmensely. Positive or negative, your feedback is extremely valuable as we are always looking for ways to improve. I will personally ensure that your need to create playlists in dropbox is passed along to the team, and I'd like to invite you to continue posting constructive feedback like this here.
Indeed, there is a special section on the Community that is dedicated exactly to this purpose. Please use the "Share an idea" section here (I can see that some already have) to give us similar ideas, we'd love to hear back from you.
Again, I remain at your entire disposal if further asssitance or clarifications are needed.
There is another cloud storage solution that is very similar to Dropbox, but it's a much smaller company - pCloud. But this hasn't stopped them to add a music player to their app. Both for mobile and desktop. It's very cool! I really wish Dropbox had been progressive like that.
The ONLY reason I finally chose Dropbox is because the pCloud music feature is bad at reading the metadata of the files. So Cloudplayer + Dropbox works better in that regard. If pCloud would've made the music player better, I'd switch to them instantly.
Also pCloud (Music Player) plays HiRes music files without first having to ‘make available offline!’ If Dropbox could introduce something similar (a music player), WOW that would be supreme!
People, many, are using dropbox to listen to music. It's a far better solution that iTunes. This dismissive response shows a lack of fundamental marketing intelligence.
Your customers want playlists and have been asking for years.
They ARE using your app to listen to music. You can pretend or insist they are not, but they are. (My primary reason for getting a paid account was that my LARGE music files made me grow beyond the basic account size. Had I not used you for music and audio I'd still be a free user.)
There are other (bad) solutions on the web to create playlists for dropbox because you have refused to. http://www.online-playlist.com
Why not embrace your customer feedback and make ANY solution to handle this.
It could be as simple as allowing users to make a text file with a specific extension that listed the files names they want in a list.
Or if you are feeling fancy, add an option under the multiple file select menu that said: "Play all" and supported a swipe right and left while playing to skip forward and back.
My point is STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY DON"T WANT WHAT THEY WANT and please LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
Thanks,
Greg
I totally agree with Greg. Your reply IS ABSOLUTELY UNEXEPTABLE. please refer us to a solution or recommended app.
For those that are still interested, I found an iPhone app that I'm using to listen to music with dropbox.
I tried a bunch of them and they were all fairly poor and then I found one that was not bad. It's called MusiCloud
It does everything that I had wished dropbox would do. It lets you make playlists, jump to the previous and next song, store a selection of songs locally so you're not killing your bandwidth. It even attempts to match up your songs with album art from online. It has not ever gotten the correct art for my albums but I almost find it extremely endearing the completely wrong selections that it makes.
Is it perfect, no. Is it free, yes, but the free version had a lot of intrusive ads that irritated me so I paid the 1.99 for the Pro version.
I have no connection to this piece of software and I get no benefit from this post. I simply want to say that there is a solution that will let you listen to music from dropbox and gives you exactly the sort of functionality that dropbox should be providing its users by default.
I would love to see a feature that would allow me to play a whole directory of MP3. Whether that is understanding an M3U file or advancing to next audio file in a directory.
I wouldn't want Dropbox to aspire to be a music player but basic playback is just a handy feature.
Similarly, while Dropbox is not a photo library application, it can advance to next picture in a directory.
Take a look at their Dropbox player demo page - [link to external website removed according to our Community Guidelines]
Actually it's not a player at all, it's just an HTML page with a list of Dropbox mp3. Just create a Dropbox app, then add its credentials to your account. Then open this player page and it will play all your mp3.
There's just no good options for making a mix for someone these days. Dropbox clearly has some advanced player technology built in, like the gallery and video player are both amazing.
The "Solution" for this doesn't work. There's no music integrated service that makes it easy to make a mix and share it with someone without that person also going through a complicated install process.
“there is no solution” is the solution? Seems like Dropbox could easily create a simple media player that works in the Dropbox app. I’ve been using db for years now and love for everything about it except that it won’t play multiple files. Come on Dropbox, read the room!
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I placed my music in dropbox. If I want to listen directly using dropbox, I can listen only to one song at a time I had to select an other song in a folder to listen again. Is there a possibility to listen to more songs or a complete CD?
I placed my music in dropbox. If I want to listen directly using dropbox, I can listen only to one song at a time I had to select an other song in a folder to listen again. Is there a possibility to listen to more songs or a complete CD?
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Did you ever solve this issue? With only playing one song at a time?
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There is no solution for this in Dropbox because it's not a media player. Find a media player application that has Dropbox functionality built-in to it.
Did you ever solve this issue? With only playing one song at a time?
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There is no solution for this in Dropbox because it's not a media player. Find a media player application that has Dropbox functionality built-in to it.
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This is a terrible response.
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People, many, are using dropbox to listen to music. It's a far better solution that iTunes. This dismissive response shows a lack of fundamental marketing intelligence.
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Your customers want playlists and have been asking for years.
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They ARE using your app to listen to music. You can pretend or insist they are not, but they are. (My primary reason for getting a paid account was that my LARGE music files made me grow beyond the basic account size. Had I not used you for music and audio I'd still be a free user.)
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There are other (bad) solutions on the web to create playlists for dropbox because you have refused to. http://www.online-playlist.com
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Why not embrace your customer feedback and make ANY solution to handle this.
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It could be as simple as allowing users to make a text file with a specific extension that listed the files names they want in a list.
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Or if you are feeling fancy, add an option under the multiple file select menu that said: \"Play all\" and supported a swipe right and left while playing to skip forward and back.
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My point is STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY DON\"T WANT WHAT THEY WANT and please LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
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Thanks,
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Greg
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Thanks for posting your feature request here and welcome to the Dropbox Community!
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Indeed, users' opinions are valued immmensely. Positive or negative, your feedback is extremely valuable as we are always looking for ways to improve. I will personally ensure that your need to create playlists in dropbox is passed along to the team, and I'd like to invite you to continue posting constructive feedback like this here.
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Indeed, there is a special section on the Community that is dedicated exactly to this purpose. Please use the \"Share an idea\" section here (I can see that some already have) to give us similar ideas, we'd love to hear back from you.
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Again, I remain at your entire disposal if further asssitance or clarifications are needed.
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Kind regards,
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JaneA
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Dear Jane,
Your response is dated May and I am still waiting for some sort of constructive response (it is now September.)
Please inform us of the progress being made by the Dropbox team on this issue.
Thank you
16 giga
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Hi Greg,
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There is another cloud storage solution that is very similar to Dropbox, but it's a much smaller company - pCloud. But this hasn't stopped them to add a music player to their app. Both for mobile and desktop. It's very cool! I really wish Dropbox had been progressive like that.
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The ONLY reason I finally chose Dropbox is because the pCloud music feature is bad at reading the metadata of the files. So Cloudplayer + Dropbox works better in that regard. If pCloud would've made the music player better, I'd switch to them instantly.
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Also pCloud (Music Player) plays HiRes music files without first having to ‘make available offline!’ If Dropbox could introduce something similar (a music player), WOW that would be supreme!
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People, many, are using dropbox to listen to music. It's a far better solution that iTunes. This dismissive response shows a lack of fundamental marketing intelligence.
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Your customers want playlists and have been asking for years.
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They ARE using your app to listen to music. You can pretend or insist they are not, but they are. (My primary reason for getting a paid account was that my LARGE music files made me grow beyond the basic account size. Had I not used you for music and audio I'd still be a free user.)
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There are other (bad) solutions on the web to create playlists for dropbox because you have refused to. http://www.online-playlist.com
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Why not embrace your customer feedback and make ANY solution to handle this.
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It could be as simple as allowing users to make a text file with a specific extension that listed the files names they want in a list.
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Or if you are feeling fancy, add an option under the multiple file select menu that said: \"Play all\" and supported a swipe right and left while playing to skip forward and back.
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My point is STOP TELLING PEOPLE THEY DON\"T WANT WHAT THEY WANT and please LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
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Thanks,
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Greg
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I totally agree with Greg. Your reply IS ABSOLUTELY UNEXEPTABLE. please refer us to a solution or recommended app.
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For those that are still interested, I found an iPhone app that I'm using to listen to music with dropbox.
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I tried a bunch of them and they were all fairly poor and then I found one that was not bad. It's called MusiCloud
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It does everything that I had wished dropbox would do. It lets you make playlists, jump to the previous and next song, store a selection of songs locally so you're not killing your bandwidth. It even attempts to match up your songs with album art from online. It has not ever gotten the correct art for my albums but I almost find it extremely endearing the completely wrong selections that it makes.
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Is it perfect, no. Is it free, yes, but the free version had a lot of intrusive ads that irritated me so I paid the 1.99 for the Pro version.
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I have no connection to this piece of software and I get no benefit from this post. I simply want to say that there is a solution that will let you listen to music from dropbox and gives you exactly the sort of functionality that dropbox should be providing its users by default.
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I wouldn't want Dropbox to aspire to be a music player but basic playback is just a handy feature.
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Take a look at their Dropbox player demo page - [link to external website removed according to our Community Guidelines]
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Actually it's not a player at all, it's just an HTML page with a list of Dropbox mp3. Just create a Dropbox app, then add its credentials to your account. Then open this player page and it will play all your mp3.
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The workaround I found is to load your music library to Amazon Music. Then Alexia will play on your devices like your car or phone.
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There's just no good options for making a mix for someone these days. Dropbox clearly has some advanced player technology built in, like the gallery and video player are both amazing.
The \"Solution\" for this doesn't work. There's no music integrated service that makes it easy to make a mix and share it with someone without that person also going through a complicated install process.
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