MacOS 13.0 Ventura, and Dropbox follows OneDrive in forcing the folder on the system drive
With Monterey, OneDrive implemented the new apis from Apple for online syncing that demanded its main location be a specific folder on the system drive. 8 months later, the MacOS community section of...
We’re in the same situation here. Local drives are not an option for the storage we need. Unless we upgrade all our machines and pay thousands for large system drives. We’re working with film rushes and large movie files having to use the local Mac system drive is not an option for us. Dropbox please push back on this restriction.
The suggestion from the Mac community is that it isn't a restriction put in place by Apple, and that DropBox is implementing Apple's new File Provider Extension instead of developing their own API. If that is the case, then it is Dropbox who are leaving us high and dry.
Andrew Parker that's a valid and good point obviously. Thanks!! I was already wondering why Sync.com and pCloud don't end up in the CloudStorage folder which kept me away from using both, cause I thought they both still need to implement the requirements by Apple. But your comment sounds much more logical as an explanation. Shame on Dropbox! Meanwhile Dropbox has still not started the move for my account. But I have now tested Google Drive. If Dropbox does same perfect job like Google did, then I don't expect any issues with the new folder structure. But if they fck it up, I'm gone. It does not speak for the people at Dropbox that they do everything last minute while they had years to do it. This means that these people at Dropbox have a mentality that I don't want to host my data with. Same now with the poor communication after buying the Boxcryptor technology. While Boxcryptor informs users right now that all accounts will be terminated by end of January, we have no news yet how things continue at Dropbox. If these guys at Dropbox would use their brains they would understand that they should have informed all their pro-customers about upcoming facts before receiving termination notes from Boxcryptor. Dilettants!
Andrew Parker the old kernel extensions were what all providers used before and Apple had deprecated them and put their own api in place for the job. I fail to see how Dropbox or anybody else is expected to provide an api for what the system already provides, especially considering that it is a longtime Apple policy to reject whatever duplicates features already provided by the system…now it’s true that standalone apps may still do it, but if you want to have a store version as well they can’t be too different. More than that though, it’s simply possible that without kernel extensions you simply don’t get to sync files you update through finder, you don’t get to see icons for stata of synchronization, because the system doesn’t support that. I don’t know for sure, mind you, but it’s been the talk of all of 2022 and now suddenly it’s “Dropbox is lazy”? Doesn’t seem likely.
Dropbox is most probably lazy or whatever because the changes were announced long long time ago. Google and Microsoft were at least much much faster than Dropbox.
So if it's true what you say now I really wonder what about Sync.com and pCloud. They have the finder file badges like Dropbox and the cloud folders are in the user directory just like Dropbox and not in -/Library/CloudStorage where they should be in the future... are they all ignoring Apple's changes? So far all works fine but may be sometimes Apple will shut the door finally? When installing pCloud you have to grant some special permissions to let pCloud create a virtual drive. May be that is a way to circumvent Apple's API thing...I don't understand much about that stuff...
While Microsoft and Google may have been faster to switch over to the new Apple File Provider daemon, a bit of searching shows numerous complaints from OneDrive and Google Drive users in 2022 regarding CPU spikes and poor system performance all traced to fileproviderd. So the fact that Dropbox is dragging their heels or whatever may simply be a sign that they are more cautious than the rest and are talking to Apple and possibly waiting for these performance issues to be improved in a future Mac OS update rather than just releasing something that is going to run like garbage. Just a thought.
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Andrew Parker that's a valid and good point obviously. Thanks!! I was already wondering why Sync.com and pCloud don't end up in the CloudStorage folder which kept me away from using both, cause I thought they both still need to implement the requirements by Apple. But your comment sounds much more logical as an explanation. Shame on Dropbox! Meanwhile Dropbox has still not started the move for my account. But I have now tested Google Drive. If Dropbox does same perfect job like Google did, then I don't expect any issues with the new folder structure. But if they fck it up, I'm gone. It does not speak for the people at Dropbox that they do everything last minute while they had years to do it. This means that these people at Dropbox have a mentality that I don't want to host my data with. Same now with the poor communication after buying the Boxcryptor technology. While Boxcryptor informs users right now that all accounts will be terminated by end of January, we have no news yet how things continue at Dropbox. If these guys at Dropbox would use their brains they would understand that they should have informed all their pro-customers about upcoming facts before receiving termination notes from Boxcryptor. Dilettants!
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Andrew Parker the old kernel extensions were what all providers used before and Apple had deprecated them and put their own api in place for the job. I fail to see how Dropbox or anybody else is expected to provide an api for what the system already provides, especially considering that it is a longtime Apple policy to reject whatever duplicates features already provided by the system…now it’s true that standalone apps may still do it, but if you want to have a store version as well they can’t be too different. More than that though, it’s simply possible that without kernel extensions you simply don’t get to sync files you update through finder, you don’t get to see icons for stata of synchronization, because the system doesn’t support that. I don’t know for sure, mind you, but it’s been the talk of all of 2022 and now suddenly it’s “Dropbox is lazy”? Doesn’t seem likely.
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Dropbox is most probably lazy or whatever because the changes were announced long long time ago. Google and Microsoft were at least much much faster than Dropbox.
So if it's true what you say now I really wonder what about Sync.com and pCloud. They have the finder file badges like Dropbox and the cloud folders are in the user directory just like Dropbox and not in -/Library/CloudStorage where they should be in the future... are they all ignoring Apple's changes? So far all works fine but may be sometimes Apple will shut the door finally? When installing pCloud you have to grant some special permissions to let pCloud create a virtual drive. May be that is a way to circumvent Apple's API thing...I don't understand much about that stuff...
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While Microsoft and Google may have been faster to switch over to the new Apple File Provider daemon, a bit of searching shows numerous complaints from OneDrive and Google Drive users in 2022 regarding CPU spikes and poor system performance all traced to fileproviderd. So the fact that Dropbox is dragging their heels or whatever may simply be a sign that they are more cautious than the rest and are talking to Apple and possibly waiting for these performance issues to be improved in a future Mac OS update rather than just releasing something that is going to run like garbage. Just a thought.
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