When starting up my computer and logging in to the user account, I do NOT want Dropbox to be starting, at all. The files Dropbox needs are not even accessible unless I as the user take a particular ...
As a 40 year I/T professional (yes, I apologize for my credentials, but you wanted "someone to correct you"), the concepts are about yin/yang. If you want to require something within your own O/S - you risk having others say "screw you" and not support your O/S.
If you get to be a big enough dog (Windows/Mac/Linux), then you bite the other dog that might say "screw you".
The bigger dog controls the smaller dog. It is not up to the bigger dog to "fix things" anymore, they don't care.
It is up to the smaller dog to find ways to make themselves continue to work - or then they die.
Though this is software, this is the way the world has always worked.
What is not clear to me is whether or not Apple is actually forcing Dropbox to move. They (Dropbox support) have not provided a reference. It would seem other apps have not yet moved everything to /Library.
This whole thing is getting me very worried. I just bought my Mac Studio a few months ago, with a 500Gb internal drive. I've been using a 2Tb external to store my Dropbox. No way I can store everything I need on my internal drive. The company I freelance for uses Dropbox so I can't just switch to something else. I truly hope this will be remedied by Dropbox. I was wondering. If I was to run the OS from my external drive would this solve the problem. Not ideal I know but cheaper than paying £3000 for new hardware.
I have pretty much switched to Sync.com which, so far does not require relocation of its folder to the Library... but who knows if that will last. Ultimately, we Mac users are being impacted by Apple which is selling non-upgradable computers (best to buy the biggest SSD model at time of purchase for HUGE bucks!) and, for what we assume are security reasons, restricting third party vendors like Dropbox. Apples iCloud just does not work like Dropbox making it a nonviable solution and it is still limited by the small SSD that we are 'stuck' with. I have to say, that while I'm very irritated with Dropbox (especially their lack of real responses to issues raised in this forum), Apple is the real problem. They are making the Mac more iPhone like and heavily restricting the versatility of their desktop and laptop computers. All computing/software companies seem to think that their users have unlimited and FAST access to the 'cloud' and should not require local storage.
Hang on a minute. According to that link, MS One Drive is also being forced to use "~/Library/CloudStorage". It's just that they've found a way to hack their software so that, while the root sync root remains in ~/Library/CloudStorage, they have put the related cache file elsewhere (potentially on an external drive). This isn't so much DropBox's "decision" as much as they just haven't found a way around it the way MS has.
That is interesting. I always thought Dropbox was better than OneDrive on Mac (why I pay for it although I have OneDrive through Office 365), but MS is clearly more responsive here.
Only worry is that that MS solution seems like a kind of hack, and who knows if it will continue to work? Apple could swat it down.
So, it’s been REALLY quiet in here regarding this issue. Is someone from Dropbox going to step in to answer this very simple question? Is this permanent or not. I’m ready to leave since I’m getting no answer or explanation to what’s going on. This is just not good enough. Embarrassing to be honest…
Well, that's the end of me using Dropbox after 12 years. I need all my files on my 2TB SSD. I can't even make a total offline backup of my Dropbox anymore, this is bad security.
There's lots of other problems too. I can't seem to get Calculate Folder Sizes in the Finder anymore - Apple must restrict this in 'cloudstorage' area, even with a Get Info I can't see the sizes of folders - whether offline or online. Not useful when organising offline/online folders.
Yeah, Apple are controlling d*ckheads who constantly make my life a misery in the name of 'security' even though we all know it's in the name of 'we want you totally locked into our ecosystem like on the ipad'.` How dare they tell me where my data or my apps (Dropbox) should be stored. I should have gone with a PC that'll teach me. But the fact that OneDrive seemed to have a work-round shows that Dropbox don't really care about Mac users anyway.
So OneDrive it is. Annoying though. I much preferred Dropbox, but they are no good to me now.
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Just installed DropBox update v157.4.4808 on a MacbookPro 13,3 running MacOS 12.6. DropBox location was moved by installer to ~/library/CloudStorage and alias moved from \"Favorites\" to \"Locations\" in sidebar. DropBox support doc \"https://help.dropbox.com/installs/macos-faqs\" says new location due to change in MacOS. HOWEVER, installed same DropBox version on an iMac 18,3 running MacOS 12.6 and the location did not change! DropBox alias remains in \"Favorites\".
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Anyone else run across this discrepancy?
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Anyone have an idea as to cause of this discrepancy?
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What is not clear to me is whether or not Apple is actually forcing Dropbox to move. They (Dropbox support) have not provided a reference. It would seem other apps have not yet moved everything to /Library.
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What is not clear to me is whether or not Apple is actually forcing Dropbox to move. They (Dropbox support) have not provided a reference. It would seem other apps have not yet moved everything to /Library.
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Thanks for clarifying that for me OldMacGuy - much appreciated.
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Full support for macOS 12.5 and higher has started rolling out. Broader availability will begin in November as we work to preserve the reliability and quality of our sync experience. You will be notified when you’re eligible enroll your other device as well.
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So, in essence, this is an update to ensure that the Dropbox desktop app continues working seamlessly on your devices and what you noticed is actually part of this process.
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We currently have a private beta, which will be more widely available in October. If you’re interested in joining, you can turn on early releases.
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I hope this helps!
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As a 40 year I/T professional (yes, I apologize for my credentials, but you wanted \"someone to correct you\"), the concepts are about yin/yang. If you want to require something within your own O/S - you risk having others say \"screw you\" and not support your O/S.
If you get to be a big enough dog (Windows/Mac/Linux), then you bite the other dog that might say \"screw you\".
The bigger dog controls the smaller dog. It is not up to the bigger dog to \"fix things\" anymore, they don't care.
It is up to the smaller dog to find ways to make themselves continue to work - or then they die.
Though this is software, this is the way the world has always worked.
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As a 40 year I/T professional (yes, I apologize for my credentials, but you wanted \"someone to correct you\"), the concepts are about yin/yang. If you want to require something within your own O/S - you risk having others say \"screw you\" and not support your O/S.
If you get to be a big enough dog (Windows/Mac/Linux), then you bite the other dog that might say \"screw you\".
The bigger dog controls the smaller dog. It is not up to the bigger dog to \"fix things\" anymore, they don't care.
It is up to the smaller dog to find ways to make themselves continue to work - or then they die.
Though this is software, this is the way the world has always worked.
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oboyd Unfortunately, Apple has made it very difficult to boot from external drives. Appleinsider did have an article on how to do it:
I have pretty much switched to Sync.com which, so far does not require relocation of its folder to the Library... but who knows if that will last. Ultimately, we Mac users are being impacted by Apple which is selling non-upgradable computers (best to buy the biggest SSD model at time of purchase for HUGE bucks!) and, for what we assume are security reasons, restricting third party vendors like Dropbox. Apples iCloud just does not work like Dropbox making it a nonviable solution and it is still limited by the small SSD that we are 'stuck' with. I have to say, that while I'm very irritated with Dropbox (especially their lack of real responses to issues raised in this forum), Apple is the real problem. They are making the Mac more iPhone like and heavily restricting the versatility of their desktop and laptop computers. All computing/software companies seem to think that their users have unlimited and FAST access to the 'cloud' and should not require local storage.
Hang on a minute. According to that link, MS One Drive is also being forced to use \"~/Library/CloudStorage\". It's just that they've found a way to hack their software so that, while the root sync root remains in ~/Library/CloudStorage, they have put the related cache file elsewhere (potentially on an external drive). This isn't so much DropBox's \"decision\" as much as they just haven't found a way around it the way MS has.
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That is interesting. I always thought Dropbox was better than OneDrive on Mac (why I pay for it although I have OneDrive through Office 365), but MS is clearly more responsive here.
Only worry is that that MS solution seems like a kind of hack, and who knows if it will continue to work? Apple could swat it down.
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Well, that's the end of me using Dropbox after 12 years. I need all my files on my 2TB SSD. I can't even make a total offline backup of my Dropbox anymore, this is bad security.
There's lots of other problems too. I can't seem to get Calculate Folder Sizes in the Finder anymore - Apple must restrict this in 'cloudstorage' area, even with a Get Info I can't see the sizes of folders - whether offline or online. Not useful when organising offline/online folders.
Yeah, Apple are controlling d*ckheads who constantly make my life a misery in the name of 'security' even though we all know it's in the name of 'we want you totally locked into our ecosystem like on the ipad'.` How dare they tell me where my data or my apps (Dropbox) should be stored. I should have gone with a PC that'll teach me. But the fact that OneDrive seemed to have a work-round shows that Dropbox don't really care about Mac users anyway.
So OneDrive it is. Annoying though. I much preferred Dropbox, but they are no good to me now.
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It just gets better and better, this now happens about twice a day.
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