Re: Symlink changes - Mac OS sync desktop to Dropbox broken
I think that just about all of the functionality that was lost when Dropbox dropped support for symlinks is still available (at least in MacOS), so long as care is taken in where files are actually stored and how the symlinks are created. You can have directories (actually symbolic links) that act like ~/src and ~/bin, but are synced across machines by Dropbox, if you are careful about where the files are actually stored and how the symbolic links are created.
For obvious reasons, Dropbox does not support soft (symbolic) links from inside of Dropbox to elsewhere on the system. This makes sense. Dropbox only syncs files that reside within its own directory structure. Having Dropbox sync files referred to by things like ~/Dropbox/mydir --> ~/mydir is a recipe for disaster. But things like ~/mydir --> ~/Dropbox/mydir make perfect sense.
The problem is that some of the obvious ways of creating those links do not work. For example, these fail:
% cd /Users/me/Dropbox
% ln -s myfile ~/myfile
% ln -s mydir ~/mydir
The results (~/myfile and ~/mydir) look like perfectly good soft links. But if you try to open ~/myfile or cd into ~/mydir, they fail.
Similarly this fails:
% cd /Users/me/Dropbox
% ln -s myfile myfile2
% mv myfile2 ~
% ln -s mydir mydir2
% mv mydir2 ~
In short, if your current working directory is inside of Dropbox, your soft links are hosed if moved outside Dropbox. The same is true of aliases created by Finder inside of Dropbox.
This, however, does work:
% cd /Users/me
% ln -s Dropbox/myfile .
% ln -s Dropbox/mydir .
The softlinks ~/myfile and ~/mydir can now be followed, both in a shell and by apps like Finder.
So, you can have directories (folders) and files that effectively appear in random places in the file heirarchy that are synced by Dropbox.
Maybe everybody else already knew this. But I didn't, nor did the support person I talked to at Dropbox. I hope it's helpful.
And you have come pretty close to recreating the functionality of iCloud Drive. Or at least putting an existing directory tree onto a pretty nice network file system that is accessible when the network is down. ;-)
numan I think it might be hard to use it for a Desktop, but don't especially see the need since iCloud syncs that well. As for as the Downloads folder, you can set a browser to download anywhere you want it to. So just make a folder in Dropbox and use it. There is no need to even worry about soft links from local folders unless you just especially want to have a file like ~/Mydownloads sitting in your home directory.
I should say that at this point I have a host of "local" files across several Macs (including things like ~/bin, ~/src and ~/Library/Script Libraries) that are really soft links to Dropbox files. It has become integral to my workflow. Even when doing development work I can sit down at whatever machine I happen to be in front of at the moment and pick up what I was doing pretty seamlessly.
I posted this answer on another similar thread but thought I would post it here too since you asked:
I'm a Mac consultant and I've been using the below excellent directions from ZDNet to sync Desktop and Documents folders across multiple computers via Dropbox for years. Also works for single computers, of course. Works perfectly and uses the method Dropbox recommends/supports. I've got literally dozens of clients using it. If you have a problem with the symlinks getting deleted, lock them, as mentioned in another thread.
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I think that just about all of the functionality that was lost when Dropbox dropped support for symlinks is still available (at least in MacOS), so long as care is taken in where files are actually stored and how the symlinks are created. You can have directories (actually symbolic links) that act like ~/src and ~/bin, but are synced across machines by Dropbox, if you are careful about where the files are actually stored and how the symbolic links are created.
For obvious reasons, Dropbox does not support soft (symbolic) links from inside of Dropbox to elsewhere on the system. This makes sense. Dropbox only syncs files that reside within its own directory structure. Having Dropbox sync files referred to by things like ~/Dropbox/mydir --> ~/mydir is a recipe for disaster. But things like ~/mydir --> ~/Dropbox/mydir make perfect sense.
The problem is that some of the obvious ways of creating those links do not work. For example, these fail:
% cd /Users/me/Dropbox
% ln -s myfile ~/myfile
% ln -s mydir ~/mydir
The results (~/myfile and ~/mydir) look like perfectly good soft links. But if you try to open ~/myfile or cd into ~/mydir, they fail.
Similarly this fails:
% cd /Users/me/Dropbox
% ln -s myfile myfile2
% mv myfile2 ~
% ln -s mydir mydir2
% mv mydir2 ~
In short, if your current working directory is inside of Dropbox, your soft links are hosed if moved outside Dropbox. The same is true of aliases created by Finder inside of Dropbox.
This, however, does work:
% cd /Users/me
% ln -s Dropbox/myfile .
% ln -s Dropbox/mydir .
The softlinks ~/myfile and ~/mydir can now be followed, both in a shell and by apps like Finder.
So, you can have directories (folders) and files that effectively appear in random places in the file heirarchy that are synced by Dropbox.
Maybe everybody else already knew this. But I didn't, nor did the support person I talked to at Dropbox. I hope it's helpful.
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I think that just about all of the functionality that was lost when Dropbox dropped support for symlinks is still available (at least in MacOS), so long as care is taken in where files are actually stored and how the symlinks are created. You can have directories (actually symbolic links) that act like ~/src and ~/bin, but are synced across machines by Dropbox, if you are careful about where the files are actually stored and how the symbolic links are created.
For obvious reasons, Dropbox does not support soft (symbolic) links from inside of Dropbox to elsewhere on the system. This makes sense. Dropbox only syncs files that reside within its own directory structure. Having Dropbox sync files referred to by things like ~/Dropbox/mydir --> ~/mydir is a recipe for disaster. But things like ~/mydir --> ~/Dropbox/mydir make perfect sense.
The problem is that some of the obvious ways of creating those links do not work. For example, these fail:
% cd /Users/me/Dropbox
% ln -s myfile ~/myfile
% ln -s mydir ~/mydir
The results (~/myfile and ~/mydir) look like perfectly good soft links. But if you try to open ~/myfile or cd into ~/mydir, they fail.
Similarly this fails:
% cd /Users/me/Dropbox
% ln -s myfile myfile2
% mv myfile2 ~
% ln -s mydir mydir2
% mv mydir2 ~
In short, if your current working directory is inside of Dropbox, your soft links are hosed if moved outside Dropbox. The same is true of aliases created by Finder inside of Dropbox.
This, however, does work:
% cd /Users/me
% ln -s Dropbox/myfile .
% ln -s Dropbox/mydir .
The softlinks ~/myfile and ~/mydir can now be followed, both in a shell and by apps like Finder.
So, you can have directories (folders) and files that effectively appear in random places in the file heirarchy that are synced by Dropbox.
Maybe everybody else already knew this. But I didn't, nor did the support person I talked to at Dropbox. I hope it's helpful.
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Thanks for posting about symlinks and how they can work in your user case.
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I merged your topic to this one to keep things neat.
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I'd be happy to see you help around like you did today. Your feedback and solutions are always welcome.
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Thanks for joining our Community! :grin:
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And you have come pretty close to recreating the functionality of iCloud Drive. Or at least putting an existing directory tree onto a pretty nice network file system that is accessible when the network is down. ;-)
And you have come pretty close to recreating the functionality of iCloud Drive. Or at least putting an existing directory tree onto a pretty nice network file system that is accessible when the network is down. ;-)
Cheers!
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so how do i do this on macs so that my desktop and downloads folder continue to funtion on Mac OS but are all synced across multiplpe macs?
This is the ONE KILLER feature I have relied upon and without it I really ahve little use for Dropbox.
so how do i do this on macs so that my desktop and downloads folder continue to funtion on Mac OS but are all synced across multiplpe macs?
This is the ONE KILLER feature I have relied upon and without it I really ahve little use for Dropbox.
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numan I think it might be hard to use it for a Desktop, but don't especially see the need since iCloud syncs that well. As for as the Downloads folder, you can set a browser to download anywhere you want it to. So just make a folder in Dropbox and use it. There is no need to even worry about soft links from local folders unless you just especially want to have a file like ~/Mydownloads sitting in your home directory.
I should say that at this point I have a host of \"local\" files across several Macs (including things like ~/bin, ~/src and ~/Library/Script Libraries) that are really soft links to Dropbox files. It has become integral to my workflow. Even when doing development work I can sit down at whatever machine I happen to be in front of at the moment and pick up what I was doing pretty seamlessly.
I think it might be hard to use it for a Desktop, but don't especially see the need since iCloud syncs that well. As for as the Downloads folder, you can set a browser to download anywhere you want it to. So just make a folder in Dropbox and use it. There is no need to even worry about soft links from local folders unless you just especially want to have a file like ~/Mydownloads sitting in your home directory.
I should say that at this point I have a host of \"local\" files across several Macs (including things like ~/bin, ~/src and ~/Library/Script Libraries) that are really soft links to Dropbox files. It has become integral to my workflow. Even when doing development work I can sit down at whatever machine I happen to be in front of at the moment and pick up what I was doing pretty seamlessly.
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I posted this answer on another similar thread but thought I would post it here too since you asked:
I'm a Mac consultant and I've been using the below excellent directions from ZDNet to sync Desktop and Documents folders across multiple computers via Dropbox for years. Also works for single computers, of course. Works perfectly and uses the method Dropbox recommends/supports. I've got literally dozens of clients using it. If you have a problem with the symlinks getting deleted, lock them, as mentioned in another thread.
I posted this answer on another similar thread but thought I would post it here too since you asked:
I'm a Mac consultant and I've been using the below excellent directions from ZDNet to sync Desktop and Documents folders across multiple computers via Dropbox for years. Also works for single computers, of course. Works perfectly and uses the method Dropbox recommends/supports. I've got literally dozens of clients using it. If you have a problem with the symlinks getting deleted, lock them, as mentioned in another thread.
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